Monday, October 02, 2006

Blogpoll: It's War Edition

A fairly mellow week of football, a fairly radical blogpoll. Feast your eyes on it.

RankTeamDelta
1 Ohio State --
2 Michigan 3
3 Auburn 1
4 Oregon 1
5 Florida 1
6 Southern Cal 2
7 Louisville --
8 Tennessee 2
9 Notre Dame 3
10 Boise State 1
11 Georgia 3
12 Georgia Tech 8
13 Cal --
14 West Virginia 4
15 Louisiana State --
16 Boston College 7
17 Clemson --
18 Oklahoma 3
19 Iowa 10
20 Texas 4
21 Missouri 5
22 Rutgers 2
23 Navy 3
24 Texas Tech 2
25 Wake Forest --
Dropped Out: TCU (#14), Virginia Tech (#19), Arizona State (#22).
Okay, so there are four groups of teams:
  • The "Conversation": To ape a term from BGS, there are seven teams that have distinguished themselves as contenders at this point. Welcome to the big dance, Ohio State, Michigan, Auburn, Oregon, Florida, USC, and Louisville. While their actual jockeying of position is contentious and fairly subjective and arbitrary, it's hard to deny that these are the big boys. Unbeaten and untied, plus they've actually fared well against real competition. I've ordered them more or less on strength of schedule at this point, but also have taken into account how they've performed and how they've looked.


  • The Little Lebowski Urban Achievers (and proud we are of all of them): The next nine teams have impressed with quality wins, but have also slipped up, struggled, or not quite proven enough to bump them out of the show, at least for the time being. Please meet Tennessee, Notre Dame, Boise State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Cal, LSU, BC and Clemson. The ordering was pretty easy, since a lot of these games have already been played head to head (Tenn-Cal, Notre Dame-GT, BC-Clemson), so we can tell who has prevailed among them. Georgia's sputtering woes against two very weak teams has caused them to slide off the radar, GT jumps into the game after an impressive win over V Tech, and Boston College makes a big leap mostly because I, uh, must have forgotten about them last week. The fact that I had them below Clemson was a bit of silliness that I've tried to eradicate in my poll. Mea culpa, Eagles fans.


  • The Unprovens: Three teams I think are good, but haven't won a real football game yet. For crying out loud, kids, it's five weeks into the season. Win a football game already! Texas has a marquee win over... let's see... Iowa State? The team that had a fourth quarter ralley to beat Northern Iowa this week? Or is it North Texas, Rice, or Sam Houston State? Win the Red River shootout, and we'll see a big correction. Lose, and maybe, just maybe, you're heading for unrankedville.


  • Gotta Put Somebody In There: The bottom is rounded out by some scrappy programs that I'm treating to a little bit of respect. Texas Tech is the last team I threw in there. I guess beating A&M is kind of an achievement, so, howdy, welcome to the poll.


I have until Wednesday morning to change my mind. Hit me with your best shot in the comments.

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15 Comments:

At 12:17 AM, Anonymous Turf said...

I think the "Conversation" term and rankings are from the guys over at MarkMayBeWrong.

http://markmaybewrong.blogspot.com/

 
At 12:22 AM, Anonymous Samari said...

I still think BC needs to be penalized severely for losing to NC State.

Then again I hate BC.

 
At 12:26 AM, Anonymous Turf said...

Whoops -- I did some checking, and like Mark May, I was wrong. The conversation, like much of the best CFB analysis on the web, did indeed start at BGS.

Apologies to Brian for questioning your facts and to Jay for giving credit to others.

 
At 1:36 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would consider moving Oklahoma up some. They lost to the PAC10 refs, not Oregon. If, and it's a big if, but if OU beats Texas they should be a top 5 team. I think OU is still paying for the whole Bomar incident, not to mention what the PAC10 did to them.

 
At 6:50 AM, Blogger gwzimm said...

Agree that OU has probably performed better than expected, and in all fairness, they really deserved the win against Oregon.

I think by the end of the year Ga Tech will have proven to be a very fine football team.

 
At 8:27 AM, Anonymous Crunchtime said...

For the most part, I agree with your rankings except Louisville. Just because they beat a very weak Miami team (at home) doesn't mean they should be contending for the NC. Their schedule is one step away from being as easy as West Virginia. I still think it's a complete joke that the Big LEast is included in the BCS.
Big LEast supporters point to their wins against other BCS schools, but that is deceiving. You can be 4-0 while playing the likes of Kentucky, Kansas St, North Carolina and Illinois. That is a lot different than being 4-0 and beating Michigan, Oklahoma, Texas, and Georgia Tech etc. So don't let the numbers fool you: the Big East is still a very weak conference. Hell, there are only 8 teams in the entire conference! WTF?

 
At 9:13 AM, Blogger gwzimm said...

Agree with crunchtime; West Va and Louisville are frauds. For Christ's sake, look at the cupcakes they play.

 
At 9:17 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd agree with you Crunchtime, except if Louisville has Brohm and Bush in the lineup, it doesn't matter who they play, they should be contenders. They actually have a semblance of a defense to go along with their flat out offense this year. If they continue to impress, and win out, it would take a VERY impressive team to get ranked ahead of them. Now, I'm not saying they should be ranked #1 or #2 at this point, and neither should West VA, but UL has been a solid team.

As for Oklahoma, they won that game against Oregon. Of course, they also gave up a horrific number of yards to the Ducks too. Have they looked a lot better than I thought they would? Absolutely. Do I think they can win the Big 12? Yes. Do I think they should play for a NC this year? It sure doesn't look like it.

 
At 12:40 PM, Anonymous CrunchTime said...

Anonymous, I'll give you that Bush and Brohm are talented, but let me remind you that they were both perfectly healthy when they got rolled up by the University of South Florida last year . Not Florida, but South Florida. When you take into account that loss (and bowl loss), along with their schedule this year, we'll never know exactly how tough Louisville is because they simply don't play any tough opponents, especially no one back to back. Likewise for West Virginia, as they play an even easier schedule.
I still think it is an absolute joke that the Big Least is even included in the BCS, as they fall way short on both quantity and quality of teams in their conference.

 
At 12:59 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think its crazy to drop TCU and add Texas Tech, seeing as TCU beat TT soundly. Your poll though. Whatever.

 
At 1:17 PM, Anonymous Samari said...

BYU totally made a sandwich with TCU's cheese and TCU didn't even complain. I was watching the game in between breaks of AU v USC, and it was no contest.

I don't know if TT deserves to be ranked, but TCU definitely doesn't

 
At 4:37 PM, Blogger Mr. A said...

I have a fealing this isn't going to win Mr. Bold this week. Not after you see what madness I've come up with. Good to see Navy back up.

 
At 5:54 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"BYU totally made a sandwich with TCU's cheese and TCU didn't even complain."

True, and I'd probably agree with you that TCU does not deserve to be ranked. But since Texas Tech doesn't have any impressive wins, and got handled by TCU, I'm not seeing the argument for ranking them either. But again, whatever.

 
At 7:27 PM, Anonymous britt said...

Oklahoma higher, Oregon lower.

Refs and their calls are a part of any game, but this wasn't merely a tenuous "butterfly effect" bad call. The refs directly cost OU the win in that game with a badly blown call(s).

 
At 11:19 PM, Blogger Tom said...

turf,

It was Jay's original idea. We asked if we could join in and he had no problem. He's been too busy to follow up, but it was his origional idea.

 

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